FRA inspection record.

Name	Type	Comments	Date

William Grimes	General	It is about time someone found documented evidence that this is a GP16. I know it looks like a GP11, because this early version was built to the same standards, but by CRR not IGC.	11/13/2008 6:34:46 PM

Joseph Yarbrough	General	You need to check your records. They WERE built by ICG at Paducah under contract. They were all built as GP11's. When Seaboard absorbed the CRR, Seaboard renamed them GP16s to fit in with the naming of the Utecia GP16s.	11/15/2008 9:21:26 AM

Joseph Yarbrough	General	So in summary, GP16 was just a model designation given the rebuilds by SBD. They are GP11 locomotives. By calling it a GP16, one is carrying on the SBD model designation. If you compare them to ICG's own GP11 locomotives, they are identical.	11/15/2008 9:27:30 AM

Jim Bruce	General	Joe's Right, Unit IS a GP11.This Clinchfield GP11 rebuild was one outsourced to the ICG/PNC shop at Paducah, KY and is an Illinois Central Gulf Paducah Shops rebuild. ICG designated these as GP11 locomotives. ICG Paducah-rebuilt GP11 locomotives were numbered in the 8700-series. Clinchfield Railroad also had 6 of these GP11 locomotives. These were also built by ICG-Paducah, and are betrayed by the shortened nose (to accomodate a new electrical cabinet behind the cab,) spartan cab and the primary air filtration system, which is mounted atop the hood behind the forward radiator section. The GP16 is a product of Seaboard System and Family Lines' own Geep rebuild progam, with units dubbed Uceta Geeps, because of the shop that did the work, followed, and these encompassed core units from most of the Family Lines component roads.	11/24/2008 12:59:27 PM

William Grimes	General	This is still a 1600 Horsepower GeeP, and there are still differences between the "CRR" GP16 and the ones employed by ICG. If it is called a GP16 on the FRA inspection than what are we fighting about? This is a GP16, simple as that. The GP11 built for CRR need to be referred to as GP16 on this web site in order to keep with uniformity, and FRA classificationsbut quite frankly Ive lost interest in trying to prove this point. You are always going to have someone eager to say otherwise, eager to tell you youre wrong. Well Ive stopped giving a d*mn, I operate both the (SCL) GP16 and an ICG GP11 for the US Army Railroad, so what the hell do I have to prove to you civilians!	1/28/2009 6:22:38 PM

William Grimes	General	This is an FRA F6180-49A form. For line item 3 the instructions (located on back of the form) state; "3. Model No. Enter original builders model number." So it should say GP7?	2/17/2009 6:07:00 PM

Ryan Swanson	General	I've carded several hundred locomotives and I can say with complete assurance, the FRA doesn't give a heap o' beans about the previous loco number or the model. You can call it a BLT-3.1415-ABCDEFG for all they care! The only people who care, apparently, are rivet-counting railfans.	2/28/2009 6:07:19 PM

Ryan Swanson	General	I've carded several hundred locomotives and I can say with complete assurance, the FRA doesn't give a heap o' beans about the previous loco number or the model. You can call it a BLT-3.1415-ABCDEFG for all they care! The only people who care, apparently, are rivet-counting railfans.	2/28/2009 6:23:48 PM

FRA inspection record.
The FRA maintenance inspection record in the cab of WIR 316. Idem #3, model # GP16. Because this is what the model designation is shown as in the official records, this is what I am calling it.
Date: 9/8/2008	Location: Moscow, ID Map	Views: 1671	Collection Of: Maddie Farnsworth
Locomotives: WIR 316(GP16)			Author: Matt Farnsworth

Picture Categories: Roster,InCab		This picture is part of album: WIR 316 is a GP16!

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